{"id":859,"date":"2008-05-13T21:37:30","date_gmt":"2008-05-13T19:37:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/notizblog.org\/?p=859"},"modified":"2023-03-01T16:48:05","modified_gmt":"2023-03-01T15:48:05","slug":"dataportability-fatigue","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/notiz.blog\/2008\/05\/13\/dataportability-fatigue\/","title":{"rendered":"DataPortability Fatigue"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Nach seinem <a href=\"http:\/\/factoryjoe.com\/blog\/2008\/05\/11\/thoughts-on-dataportability\/\">Artikel \u00fcber DataPortability<\/a> und <a href=\"http:\/\/chrissaad.wordpress.com\/2008\/05\/12\/responses-to-dataportability-questions\/\">Chris Saads Antwort<\/a>, \u00e4u\u00dfert sich Chris Messina nochmals sehr kritisch zu dem Thema in der <a href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/dataportabilityactionsteering\/browse_thread\/thread\/5102dd84d2ddec0d\/3a8b31cae01dc294#3a8b31cae01dc294\">DP Google-Group<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Gerade nach den Pressemeldungen \u00fcber MySpaces &#8222;Data Availability&#8220;:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n\t<p>[&#8230;] MySpace is announcing a broad ranging embrace of data portability standards today, along with data sharing partnerships with Yahoo, Ebay, Twitter and their own Photobucket subsidiary. [&#8230;] <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techcrunch.com\/2008\/05\/08\/myspace-embraces-data-portability-partners-with-yahoo-ebay-and-twitter\/\">#<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8230;oder \u00fcber Googles &#8222;Friend Connect&#8220;:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n\t<p>As we reported on Friday, Google will be launching its own data portability effort called Friend Connect. [&#8230;] <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techcrunch.com\/2008\/05\/12\/google-confirms-friend-connect\/\">#<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8230;ist (meiner Meinung nach) einer der treffendsten Punkte in <a href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/dataportabilityactionsteering\/browse_thread\/thread\/5102dd84d2ddec0d\/3a8b31cae01dc294#3a8b31cae01dc294\">Chris&#8216; Kommentar<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n\t<p>The behavior indicates [&#8230;] that the DP-PR machine is simply more effective at taking credit for big moves that they had nothing directly to do with than to promote smaller independent, more &#8222;grassroots&#8220; groups who are *actually* making moves towards effective data portability, like Dopplr, like TripIt, like Satisfaction and Twitter and the rest. I don&#8217;t believe I&#8217;ve seen any press releases go out about them, and yet I would consider them to be on the vanguard giving people access to their data in real-world, useful ways.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Ich muss Chris Messina leider recht geben, keines der gro\u00df angek\u00fcndigten (<strong>und mit DataPortability in Verbindung gebrachten<\/strong>) Systeme betreibt wirklich DataPortability (zumindest zum aktuellen Zeitpunkt). Sowohl MySpace als auch Google verwenden zwar offene Standards (Facebook nutzt sogar keinen der erw\u00e4hnten Standards f\u00fcr &#8222;Facebook Connect&#8220;) wie <a href=\"http:\/\/oauth.net\">OAuth<\/a> oder <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20180217084508\/http:\/\/openid.com:80\/\">OpenID<\/a>, aber bisher leider nur hinter ihren &#8222;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Closed_platform\">Walled Gardens<\/a>&#8222;.<br\/> Was ist mit den wahren <abbr title=\"DataPortability\">DP<\/abbr> &#8222;Helden&#8220; wie <a href=\"http:\/\/pixelsebi.com\/2007-06-25\/dopplr-importiert-social-network-auf-basis-von-microformats\/\">Dopplr<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/http:\/\/www.notsorelevant.com\/2008-03-15\/open-standards-magnolia-as-an-example\/\">Magnolia<\/a> oder <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20080831104943\/http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/people\/new\">Satisfaction<\/a>, die wirkliche Anwendungsf\u00e4lle schaffen und sich dem Ziel der portablen Daten Schritt f\u00fcr Schritt n\u00e4hern?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/http:\/\/www.notsorelevant.com\/2008-05-11\/data-portability-lets-get-rid-of-it\/\">Carsten P\u00f6tter<\/a> beschreibt das bestehende Problem auch noch einmal von einer etwas anderen Seite:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n\t<p>DataPortability, Data Availability, Facebook Connect, Google Friend Connect, DiSo,&#8230; [&#8230;] All the mentioned initiatives just lead to confusion. We can\u2019t be sure if we mean the same thing when talking about data portability anymore. It\u2019s probably best to abandon that term and just focus on single issues. Can I export my profile or can it just be accessed by a third party?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Man sollte in Zukunft vielleicht etwas sparsamer mit dem <em>Titel<\/em> DataPortability umgehen und ihn <a href=\"https:\/\/notiz.blog\/2008\/05\/02\/sind-eine-hcard-und-ein-wenig-xfn-jetzt-schon-dataportability\/\">nicht f\u00fcr jede &#8222;simple&#8220; hCard <em>vergeben<\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nach seinem Artikel \u00fcber DataPortability und Chris Saads Antwort, \u00e4u\u00dfert sich Chris Messina nochmals sehr kritisch zu dem Thema in der DP Google-Group. 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